They were both very tough. On The Bwlch, I was climbing up through the trees, looking ahead I could see what I thought was the top. As I emerged from the trees I then saw the full horror of the rest of the climb in front of me. The chap from Cyclosport website, Mark Harding, was standing at the edge of the road here in the shelter of some rocks filming the riders. He was saying "Nearly at the top". When quite obviously it was bloody miles. Most amusing (for him).
But great scenery.