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bit harsh!!

But well done Carlos - deserved it after that awesome break on Alpe D'Huez, didn't wait for victory to come to him, he went out and seized it!!

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There was something not quite right with Evans today and he has appeared quite prickly in recent days

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I watched on Fr2 today.

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There was something not quite right with Evans today and he has appeared quite prickly in recent days.

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Perhaps he's been reading some of the comments on here!

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I watched on Fr2 today.

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Don't FR2 have Jalabert on a motorbike following the race? Did he say anything about his former team mate's performance?

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There was something not quite right with Evans today and he has appeared quite prickly in recent days

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I don't think Evans can handle the pressure. Since Weds, it's been "his Tour to lose". But since the Pyrenees he's had the strongest team in the race slowly turning the screw, isolating him wherever possible. No-one to get bottles from the team car, or pace you back in if you puncture. That's pressure. Today's TT was a course that "suited him down to the ground". That's more pressure. The weight of expectation must have nearly buckled his narrow shoulders. Imagine how he felt at the first time check when he was told Sastre had only lost 8 seconds. I think he was physically and mentally worn out.

Sastre, on the other hand, has had time to ride into form, whilst being protected by that same, strongest team. The Yellow spotlight was usefully taken by a team mate, giving him more quiet build up. Today he rode the TT of his life, and there was a Yellow Jersey effect, but he was fresher and mentally stronger. He deserved it.

All this is of course with the benefit of hindsight.

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Perhaps it would be smart for us to be cautious: we've had reason in the past to be sceptical of more than one person who's ridden "the TT of his life" at a crucial point! Also, is it really such a matter for rejoicing that Riis has 'won' another Tour?

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i think this years tour has been dull .
no really strong rider having a go .

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I never found Armstrong boring.

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Never? How else do you spend time enjoying yourself - watching paint dry?

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This year's Tour dull? How about four wins for a British rider?

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I found the spectacle of Armstrong and his team crushing the opposition tedious. Maybe Armstrong's focus on Le Tour and nothing else has contributed to it's current dominant status in cycling.

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You could guarantee that he would attack in the mountains and win several stages.

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Agree with the above, it was a bit like F1 in Monaco, watch the whole race on the edge of your seat waiting for something to happen but often nothing much does.

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Lance's domination did get boring because like merckx and anquetil he had no weakness

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but lets not forget that in the "Golden era" everyone seems so keen to revive, most, if not all, of the so called great rides were drug enhanced, and most have been proven to be so!

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Merckx had a weakness - he would keep attacking even when victory was assured. He also raced all year, as did Anquetil, not just for three weeks. Armstrong was completely unlike both of those men and was the poorer because of it.

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but lets not forget that in the "Golden era" everyone seems so keen to revive, most, if not all, of the so called great rides were drug enhanced, and most have been proven to be so!

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Drug enhanced, I've been thinking about that during the last three weeks.
Pot belge & amphetamines reduced pain & tiredness but did they enhance performance? I doubt it.
After Evans crashed his team-mates were shown taking "comprimés" up to him from the doctor's car. Serving the same purpose as the primitive old fashioned drugs? Helping you to ride on through the pain but not a lot more.

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What are you on about?
Are you saying its ok to take drugs in sport? or that Evans is a drugs cheat?
Maybe we should go back to the era of EPO, blood transfusions and anything else that would make for attacking racing!
Evans is a fine rider BUT he did n't attack enough and relied on his TT abilities to win, and that is the opinion of a rider who has won one race in the last 25 years!

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but lets not forget that in the "Golden era" everyone seems so keen to revive, most, if not all, of the so called great rides were drug enhanced, and most have been proven to be so!

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Drug enhanced, I've been thinking about that during the last three weeks.
Pot belge & amphetamines reduced pain & tiredness but did they enhance performance? I doubt it.
After Evans crashed his team-mates were shown taking "comprimés" up to him from the doctor's car. Serving the same purpose as the primitive old fashioned drugs? Helping you to ride on through the pain but not a lot more.

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What are you on about?
Are you saying its ok to take drugs in sport? or that Evans is a drugs cheat?
Maybe we should go back to the era of EPO, blood transfusions and anything else that would make for attacking racing!

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That Carlos Santana, I mean Sastra,
well done to Carlos Santana, I mean Sastre

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Kimmage is a miserable git, right or not. He should get over it. Perhaps he should start commenting on bowls or something dull that Australians do well.

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Kimmage is a miserable git, right or not. He should get over it. Perhaps he should start commenting on bowls or something dull that Australians do well.

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You can say that again, I raced against him in 1992, 3 years after he retired and he was still wearing his Fagor kit!
If you read the article, he seems to be changing his opinion of the sport

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....Whoop de doo big fellah! Did you beat him in your eh --- perhaps so --- un---forgettable PRO career? One race in '92? and you were wearing what? A Borat get up?



Erm, It was a local league race 3 years after he retired, he was riding scratch and I was a junior, I was wearing my club gear you twat!


Go on, go on, go on - Enlighten us! I never raced against the guy, but I absolutely respect - his stance - his honesty - his belief in clean cycle sport. And where, oh where, oh where is it wrong that PK can be man enough to change his opinion?


So do I, I read every word he writes on the sport, to me he's one of the few people who's opinion on the sport has mattered of the past few years, and I think it's great that something has happened to change his opinion.



I'm not sure if you're refering to me here? but don't tell me your on about Tom Humphreys giving going on about tg4 are you?

As you so eloquently state - Bowls or something - I suggest you are indeed a bowler or tiddlywinks expert on the wrong site - If you ask nicely I will email you a piece in The Irish Times that oh perhaps maybe will let you remove your blinkers.

Fud!

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( I didnt say spoiler as i never named the individual concerned)


Isnt it great that the passive cheat did not succeed, hurrah for tiny spanish fellas!

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Kimmage is a miserable git, right or not. He should get over it.

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