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wheelnut



Reged: 16/06/2008
Posts: 7
Loc: Kent UK
spirit of the thing
      #23910 - 16/06/2008 23:20

I am desperately trying to keep to a plan but all those 3 mins of this at brisk and then 2 mins easy and then...is driving me up the wall. My HRM is constantly bleeping at me and it ant easy keeping to easy pace around where I live (very hilly) or indeed on a singlespeed!

Is it ok just to keep to the spirit of the session such easy, base, tempo, brisk, etc, etc...This is a bit more like the language in last years training guides!

In addition I am a MTB cyclist in the main (although I do have a cyclo cross) so some of these sessions are tough to do off road in any sort of good order :-)

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El_Cid



Reged: 02/08/2007
Posts: 871
Loc: Ilkley, Yorks
Re: spirit of the thing [Re: wheelnut]
      #23930 - 17/06/2008 11:06

For this sort of level of riding, just go out and enjoy yourself, get some miles in, sprint a bit now and again, take some hills in - above all enjoy it.

Fit riding in around the rest of your life, but do as much as you can.
By simply training you will quickly reach about 90% of your potential fitness level - this is pretty fit, 440 miles will be easy to you.

Then you can decide if you really, really like it enough to add the extra 10%. This last bit of uber-fitnes is HARD to gain. This is when getting scientific and really thinking about and planning what you do is important, as is organisation and dedication.

Its all a matter of deciding what you want out of the sport and what you want to put in - enjoy, don't worry!

Good luck in China. Please let us know what its like.

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wheelnut



Reged: 16/06/2008
Posts: 7
Loc: Kent UK
Re: spirit of the thing [Re: El_Cid]
      #23966 - 17/06/2008 17:49

Thanks el cid!

yes i suppose i do not need speed or sprinting ability but just endurance so that means lots of miles!

I am getting a little 'hung' up on the training, etc.

you have reminded me of what it is all about!

I will of course feed back after the bike ride in china!

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wuverley



Reged: 16/05/2008
Posts: 1495
Loc: Man of Kent
Re: spirit of the thing [Re: wheelnut]
      #24004 - 17/06/2008 23:20

In a spirit of mutual agreement can I also say, just keep going out on the bike. Don't worry about intervals, either sprinting, or up hills.

For a long distance ride or a tour you simply need to be comfortable putting the miles in, which is essentially, riding as much as you can or can find the time to. If you need to ride 100 miles per day, then being absolutely comfortable riding 60 miles in 4 hours is probably enough.

You need to put the time in so you know you can sit on the bike all day long, but if speed is not important then that's all there is to it. Hopefully I've made that sound easy, I know it isn't in reality. Good luck.

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bfergie



Reged: 19/04/2008
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Re: spirit of the thing [Re: wuverley]
      #24012 - 18/06/2008 08:19

I will add that although speed isn't that important if you can cover the distance at a comfortable pace that is either quicker than your current pace or faster than others in your group it means 4 things:-
1. You spend less time on the saddle each day.(good news for your butt)
2. You get more time to rest each day either in breaks or at the end of the day.
3. If you cycle with the group you will be cruising making the trip easier.
4. More rest means more time to eat which is vital on long trips.

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wheelnut



Reged: 16/06/2008
Posts: 7
Loc: Kent UK
Re: spirit of the thing [Re: bfergie]
      #24031 - 18/06/2008 12:47

Thanks wuverley and bfergie, yes with hindsight I have realised I have maybe got to hung up on keeping to a formal training plan with all the intervals, lactice thresholds, etc.

It is the desire for added benefit or the 'something for nothing' mentality!

Although the China bike ride is my main aim I do wish however longer term to do some sort of competitive cycling. But best just to get the challenge done first i guess and then go on to more formal training next year.

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crymble



Reged: 01/10/2007
Posts: 99
Loc: Belfast
Re: spirit of the thing [Re: wheelnut]
      #24969 - 26/06/2008 09:24

I've just done a similar distance ride and it was no problem and as long as you are reasonably fit then it will be a breeze.

Generally these things are broken down into 10-15mile chunks with the whole group regrouping and resting at the end of each. It means (as someone else said,) that if you are competant on a bike and reaonsably fit then you get a lot of rest during the day.

Good Luck,

K

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