bigoldsideofham
Reged: 23/12/2007
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( I didnt say spoiler as i never named the individual concerned)
Isnt it great that the passive cheat did not succeed, hurrah for tiny spanish fellas!
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CrazyIvan
Reged: 18/07/2008
Posts: 50
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Cheat?
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bfergie
Reged: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1614
Loc: Wickerman land,Scotland
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Oh happy days , well done the un-named spanish bloke from CSC!!
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ToneFloat
Reged: 13/08/2007
Posts: 67
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Excellent news - did anyone see the clips on ITV4 today of Evans acting like a spoilt child, head-butting a camera, going off in a huff into his van etc., what an absolute pranny.
I am REALLY glad he lost!
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dang
Reged: 16/06/2006
Posts: 451
Loc: twixt 7 & ?
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I watched on Fr2 today. Interested by the fact that, although they were interviewing a whole string of riders during their warm-ups, the Antepodeaen gentleman's Team had rented a whole house nearby so that he could do it in secret.
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le_petit_grimpeur
Reged: 29/05/2008
Posts: 73
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There was something not quite right with Evans today and he has appeared quite prickly in recent days.
Very pleased for Carlos Sastre...sometimes the nice guys do win.
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rcruise63
Reged: 27/03/2007
Posts: 476
Loc: Consett
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cheat did not succeed
bit harsh!!
But well done Carlos - deserved it after that awesome break on Alpe D'Huez, didn't wait for victory to come to him, he went out and seized it!! 
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Smokin_Joe
Reged: 09/06/2006
Posts: 1677
Loc: Fishguard
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Good ride by Millar too.
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tonybv9
Reged: 08/10/2007
Posts: 528
Loc: Craggy Island
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There was something not quite right with Evans today and he has appeared quite prickly in recent days
I don't think Evans can handle the pressure. Since Weds, it's been "his Tour to lose". But since the Pyrenees he's had the strongest team in the race slowly turning the screw, isolating him wherever possible. No-one to get bottles from the team car, or pace you back in if you puncture. That's pressure. Today's TT was a course that "suited him down to the ground". That's more pressure. The weight of expectation must have nearly buckled his narrow shoulders. Imagine how he felt at the first time check when he was told Sastre had only lost 8 seconds. I think he was physically and mentally worn out.
Sastre, on the other hand, has had time to ride into form, whilst being protected by that same, strongest team. The Yellow spotlight was usefully taken by a team mate, giving him more quiet build up. Today he rode the TT of his life, and there was a Yellow Jersey effect, but he was fresher and mentally stronger. He deserved it.
All this is of course with the benefit of hindsight.
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mamba80
Reged: 09/08/2007
Posts: 150
Loc: Cornwall
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Made my day seeing evans lose, we fans pay his wages and he's forgotten that!
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tonybv9
Reged: 08/10/2007
Posts: 528
Loc: Craggy Island
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I watched on Fr2 today.
Don't FR2 have Jalabert on a motorbike following the race? Did he say anything about his former team mate's performance?
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bigoldsideofham
Reged: 23/12/2007
Posts: 1070
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Those who say us calling Evans a cheat is harsh are not being entirely objective! How many of us would like to lead the same guy around a clubrun week in and week out and watch them pop out from shelter occasionally to take the adulation? Everyone should do there fair share of leading, attacking, pace setting and he NEVER does. Glad his dreams are shattered and happy for the little fella!
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scm
Reged: 24/06/2006
Posts: 1228
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There was something not quite right with Evans today and he has appeared quite prickly in recent days.
Perhaps he's been reading some of the comments on here!
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tonybv9
Reged: 08/10/2007
Posts: 528
Loc: Craggy Island
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I watched on Fr2 today.
Don't FR2 have Jalabert on a motorbike following the race? Did he say anything about his former team mate's performance?
Here's Jaja's thoughts on the day:
http://tour-de-france.france2.fr/index-fr.php?page=jalabert
In the last few lines he talks about the team spirit that is evident at CSC from the way all the team congratulated Sastre at the finish. He remarks that he never saw Armstrong's team mates do the same for him.
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thatwomanagain
Reged: 30/07/2006
Posts: 1959
Loc: Hugh Porter country...
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A win for Cadel would have been really impressive given his conspicuous absence of team support. But surely good teamwork should be recognised and rewarded - otherwise they might as well race as individuals. So I'm pleased it worked out for Riis's close-knit team.
When Basso was booted off Team CSC I remember the press asking Riis who he'd be signing up as new team leader. He said he didn't need to sign anyone new as they'd got Carlos. There were some raised eyebrows at the time! So it's great to see Riis's confidence in his rider amply repaid. That's what teamwork's all about. 
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bfergie
Reged: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1614
Loc: Wickerman land,Scotland
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Talking of Basso his cheating asso will be back next year for liquigas, as will Astana and a confident CSC, really not looking good for Evans is it!
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scm
Reged: 24/06/2006
Posts: 1228
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Evans could be the new Poulidor, but without the grace and charm.
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cliff
Reged: 03/03/2007
Posts: 60
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There was something not quite right with Evans today and he has appeared quite prickly in recent days
I don't think Evans can handle the pressure. Since Weds, it's been "his Tour to lose". But since the Pyrenees he's had the strongest team in the race slowly turning the screw, isolating him wherever possible. No-one to get bottles from the team car, or pace you back in if you puncture. That's pressure. Today's TT was a course that "suited him down to the ground". That's more pressure. The weight of expectation must have nearly buckled his narrow shoulders. Imagine how he felt at the first time check when he was told Sastre had only lost 8 seconds. I think he was physically and mentally worn out.
Sastre, on the other hand, has had time to ride into form, whilst being protected by that same, strongest team. The Yellow spotlight was usefully taken by a team mate, giving him more quiet build up. Today he rode the TT of his life, and there was a Yellow Jersey effect, but he was fresher and mentally stronger. He deserved it.
All this is of course with the benefit of hindsight.
Perhaps it would be smart for us to be cautious: we've had reason in the past to be sceptical of more than one person who's ridden "the TT of his life" at a crucial point! Also, is it really such a matter for rejoicing that Riis has 'won' another Tour?
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tonybv9
Reged: 08/10/2007
Posts: 528
Loc: Craggy Island
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Perhaps it would be smart for us to be cautious: we've had reason in the past to be sceptical of more than one person who's ridden "the TT of his life" at a crucial point! Also, is it really such a matter for rejoicing that Riis has 'won' another Tour?
I am more suspicious of the performances of Gerolsteiner - Schumacher especially. Two consecutive long breakaways, then he wins a TT.
As for Riis, is he any different from any of those currently in team management who raced in the 1990's? Well he is, because he confessed. But that's about it.
Edited by TheFatControlleR (27/07/2008 14:07)
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kpkev
Reged: 27/07/2008
Posts: 1
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so glad its not me then.
evans is really boring [paint watches him dry].
he didnt ride well and a really boring rider to watch on tv .
i think this years tour has been dull .
no really strong rider having a go .
how they say its the best tour in the world is beyond me .
l think the giro ranks as the best tour year after year .
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