Dazzricles
Reged: 24/08/2008
Posts: 153
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Can somone tell me why the worlds biggest sporting event, one that costs the host nation not millions, but billions to host is ran by an unelected quango of people?.
One that somehow has bin given the right to "own" the Olypics?. Unbelievable amounts of money are paid to the IOC for tv rights..these are owned by the ioc..not the host nation. Resendents effected by the construction of Olypmpic facilities have compulsery purchase orders made on there homes and the public at large is hoodwinked into believing that somehow the sacrifices are for the good of the nation.
Ask the residents of Barcalona and Sydney how they feel...there still paying the dept. The fact is that the Olympics have become an enormous "cash cow" for multinational corperations ever since the Los Angeles games of 84 showed a profit could be made. A profit largely made at the cost of tax payers of host nations.
There are non so blind as those that will not see.
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colnagodream
Reged: 06/04/2008
Posts: 325
Loc: Langholm, Dumfriesshire. 10 mi...
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My opinion  :- have the games in Athens every time  , save this farce with the Olympic torch every four years  . Can Britain afford these games?? 
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El_Cid
Reged: 02/08/2007
Posts: 871
Loc: Ilkley, Yorks
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I don't mind a bit of my tax going towards the Olympics.
Hopefully changes and developments made will benefit alot of people and that the inconvenienced or displaced will be properly compensated.
Regarding your question of "Why". Why not, somebody might as well do it. If you want to change or improve things, put yourself forward, get involved. Dont just belly ache from the sidelines, like Citizen Smith but without his aptitude for spelling.
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rcruise63
Reged: 27/03/2007
Posts: 476
Loc: Consett
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My opinion :- have the games in Athens every time , save this farce with the Olympic torch every four years . Can Britain afford these games??
Hear, hear!!
Thought it was appalling that they were not awarded '96 games because Coca Cola wanted them in its home town for the centenary games! Showed exactly what IOC are motivated by - $$$$$! 'Stronger, Faster, Higher' -as Jim Royle might say 'My a**e'!
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bfergie
Reged: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1619
Loc: Wickerman land,Scotland
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I think holding it in Athens every time is a great idea, the Greeks might not agree but using the same venue every time has to make economic and environmental sense! I think it's a now just a competition to see which country can waste the most money!
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Dazzricles
Reged: 24/08/2008
Posts: 153
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To El Cid...yeh, my spellings crap. You may not mind how your tax`s are spent, but you fail to take up the point that past Olympics have NOT, in the long term , benifited the ordinary people of a host nation and that for all the "inspirational" qualities attributed to this four yearly spectacle our kids our geting fatter and playing fields are still closing. As for citizen Smith?..as with the character im not deluded that we, or any one else on this planet lives in true democracy.
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bigoldsideofham
Reged: 23/12/2007
Posts: 1075
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Id rather give it to a major event like the olympics that inspire and encourage people to get off of their arses and do something than buy needles for junkies, lung transplants for smokers, accomodation for lazy buggers who cant be bothered to earn for themselves and t.v's and expensive educational programs for prisoners. Personally id slash expenditure in most of these areas and scrub it all together in others and happily watch my tax dissappear into new stadiums and urban regeneration.
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Dazzricles
Reged: 24/08/2008
Posts: 153
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While sat here on my lap top BBC 1 is showing the Olypic handover from Trafalger Sqare. How ironic that Mc Fly just sang "London Calling"...poor old Joe Strummer would be turning in his grave.
Check the lyrics :http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/London-Calling-lyrics-The-Clash/94EEBE0A78C8DC9E482568AB00303277
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dang
Reged: 16/06/2006
Posts: 451
Loc: twixt 7 & ?
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It was nice to see Victoria training for the next London AlleyCat race though.
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MsTree
Reged: 28/11/2007
Posts: 229
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BTW El Cid was that your daughter who came 8th in the Rhythmic gymnastics yesterday?
I bet we'll still have to pay for tickets even though they are taking the money out of my council tax already (without asking!) As for that logo...don't go there.
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rcruise63
Reged: 27/03/2007
Posts: 476
Loc: Consett
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Id rather give it to a major event like the olympics that inspire and encourage people to get off of their arses and do something than buy needles for junkies, lung transplants for smokers, accomodation for lazy buggers who cant be bothered to earn for themselves and t.v's and expensive educational programs for prisoners. Personally id slash expenditure in most of these areas and scrub it all together in others and happily watch my tax dissappear into new stadiums and urban regeneration.
How do you feel about providing wheelchairs for cripples - we could save ourselves a fortune there! Start thinking BOSH and stop quoting the Daily Mail!!
PS If you really want to divert some serious money into sports take it away from a seriously over invested area of the economy - the military
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bfergie
Reged: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1619
Loc: Wickerman land,Scotland
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I think comparing people in wheelchairs is completely different than all bigold quoted above since we could all end up in a wheelchair from a crash, I know a lad who has from a mtn bike fall and it's not his choice to be crippled. Junkies, smokers, lazy buggers,prisoners have a choice and made the wrong choice, no one can force you to take drugs,smoke,break the law etc, no one has ever approached me with drugs, I would go mad if they did, probably local dealers can tell who to approach but if I am not approachable, surely others can be also, "no" is a little word that means so much!
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winegoblin
Reged: 31/03/2007
Posts: 1058
Loc: down yur me anzum
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Personally id slash expenditure in most of these areas and scrub it all together in others and happily watch my tax dissappear into new stadiums and urban regeneration.
Of course, there would have to be a ministerial post created (jobs for the boys)to decide where and how this money is re-deployed. This minister would then need his own entourage of people; secretaries etc.
I think you've just created a new job for someone, and his buddies who will undoubtably, with a few handshakes, make as much money as he/she/they can from the venture, get themselves a nice second home in the country, a luxury car and a handy pension. Taxes eh? Be careful what you wish for.
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El_Cid
Reged: 02/08/2007
Posts: 871
Loc: Ilkley, Yorks
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In our lovely country we provide free education, free health care, a home if you are homeless, if you have nothing then the basics of life are provided free of charge, along with people employed to help and support you, if you will take it.
If you for some reason don't bother to utlise your free education, maybe you go off the rails or simply can't be arsed. Guess what, you can be educated again for free as an adult, to help you get yourself sorted.
Surely this is a fantastic society to live in.
Also you are absolutely free to get involved in the running of the country and decision making. Join the political party of your choice, stand for council election, become an MP - its not difficult to get involved.
To have all this should be enough for any work shy trot, or for that matter any raving nazi looney.
Surely people who abuse this offer, or do not take full advantage of the opportunities provided to them do not deserve to be pandered to further.
Although I realise there will be waste and there is a very real chance of us making a mess of the Olympics, I really hope its great and a big success and worth every penny.
It would be great not to have to spend any money at all on arms or military, sadly the World situation means that this is not going to happen in the foreseeable future. As to making the right or wrong decisions on how and when to use our military, its easy for armchair politicians to dictate from in front of the TV, but more difficult for the people in the hot seat.
Tony Blair, a sometime socialist and definitely not a natural war monger still went into Iraq. It will be interesting to ask him in 15 years - right or wrong decision Tony? But a decision had to be made. And we selected Mr Blair and paid him to make these decisions for us.
Talking about the military, lets get some of the offenders out of prison and into service instead.
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scm
Reged: 24/06/2006
Posts: 1229
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... there is a very real chance of us making a mess of the Olympics ...
Like we did with the Tour depart last year? I look forward to an Olympic mess of which we can be mightily proud. 
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rcruise63
Reged: 27/03/2007
Posts: 476
Loc: Consett
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Tony Blair, a sometime socialist and definitely not a natural war monger
History would indicate you are wrong on both counts
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But a decision had to be made. And we selected Mr Blair and paid him to make these decisions for us.
At which point he very decisively let GWB make the decision for us!
As for the cost of the Olympics - why do we have to build a brand new velodrome in London - do we not already have a world class venue of this type in Manchester???
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bigoldsideofham
Reged: 23/12/2007
Posts: 1075
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Id rather give it to a major event like the olympics that inspire and encourage people to get off of their arses and do something than buy needles for junkies, lung transplants for smokers, accomodation for lazy buggers who cant be bothered to earn for themselves and t.v's and expensive educational programs for prisoners. Personally id slash expenditure in most of these areas and scrub it all together in others and happily watch my tax dissappear into new stadiums and urban regeneration.
How do you feel about providing wheelchairs for cripples - we could save ourselves a fortune there! Start thinking BOSH and stop quoting the Daily Mail!!
PS If you really want to divert some serious money into sports take it away from a seriously over invested area of the economy - the military
Reactionary foolishness. Bfergie has already covered the very distinct differences - ie some choose to be a drain, these should be disowned so that the truely deserving can be properly looked after. I do not read a paper as i see more than enough 'real life' on a day to day basis. In my opinion the military are hugely underfunded and wait behind the leaches for vital operations to treat injuries sustained fighting to uphold others rites. People like you get squeemish about what needs to be done to protect other peoples liberites but are the first to whinge when theirs are infringed. You are blind to the truth of the abuses of the real workers(and therefor funders) of this country. You will no doubt attempt to twist my words to fit your stereotyping of me into the 'hard line' or nationalist grouping to help you sleep at night but this is simply not true.
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rcruise63
Reged: 27/03/2007
Posts: 476
Loc: Consett
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In our lovely country we provide free education, free health care, a home if you are homeless, if you have nothing then the basics of life are provided free of charge, along with people employed to help and support you, if you will take it.
If you for some reason don't bother to utlise your free education, maybe you go off the rails or simply can't be arsed. Guess what, you can be educated again for free as an adult, to help you get yourself sorted.
Surely this is a fantastic society to live in.
I could not agree more Cid - what I object to is the ill-informed (non-newspaper readers??) automatically assuming that all of those people taking advantage of what we, as a civilised society, choose to put in place to support others are work-shy criminal scroungers. Nothing is ever that straightforward. True, some are but not all.
It is a similar argument to the 'immigrant' scare that all immigrants are only coming here to claim benefits - in my experience the opposite is true - they work their socks off to make a new life and make a significant positive contribution to our racist society under very difficult circumstances.
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bigoldsideofham
Reged: 23/12/2007
Posts: 1075
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Immigrants? When were they mentioned? Im one myself - a scotsman in the south.
Racist Britain - first to abandon slavery and fight it and provide equal rites for all. Im the ill informed one eh? ha ha ha ha ha!
Well as you seem to wish to defend the lazy and useless ill leave you to it, bit its just as well that everyone doesnt just drop to their backsides and do nothing. If we did the leaches would run out of tobbacco and white lightening money. I just wouldnt be able to live with myself if that happened.
Enjoy the rest of your bank holiday (designed as a pleasant break for the workers).
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rcruise63
Reged: 27/03/2007
Posts: 476
Loc: Consett
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Enjoy the rest of your bank holiday (designed as a pleasant break for the workers).
Agree to disagree
Have a good one yourself
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